Bryon> On the side facing us there was a black area on the lower half of the disk. It was narrow at the top and wider at the bottom. I take it this was the viewport.
Certainly they had seen us before when we chased them in the Charger, but this time we were in Butch's mom's car. We were not chasing them or playing games with them like we had before. And this time they flew right up to us to have a good look. Or maybe to give us a good look at their ship.
We saw lights coming up from behind us on the highway and the UFO began to rise, moving south as it did until it was gone over the Old Pearl hill.
When they got to Bryon's house, his dad and sister were telling the others about seeing a strange light in the sky as they returned from the farm to feed the horses. Yes they had been the vehicle that came up from behind when the UFO began to leave.
Both boys told their story about being within a few steps of the hovering UFO in Pearl.
Knowing that alien craft and UFO's are real, Bryon began doing research into the subject. Since then he's talked with and interviewed a wide number of those who have described UFO sightings, alien contact, and even alien abductions. He's worked UFO investigations with the director of the New Project Blue Book, Mr. Bill Pitts. He's been to Roswell, NM and interviewed several people concerning the 1947 Roswell Crash, including Glenn Dennis and Frank Kaufman.
Years later while eating at the Kampsville Inn with his dad, he was introduced to a man and wife seated at the next table. The lady described a strange story telling how when her son was young he would tell them about taking rides with the "space men" in their flying saucer. His parents chalked it up to an over active imagination and forgot about it. The boy grew up, got married, and moved to the St. Charles area near St. Louis, MO.
The mother was waiting at home for her husband who was a trucker. Suddenly the power went off to the house and a brilliant beam of light came down in the front yard. Investigating, she found a brilliant deep dish UFO about 30 feet across hovering low over her front yard. In a panic, she called her son who said...
Son> "Don't worry, mom, they are just looking for me and when they see I'm not there they will leave. They won't hurt you."
Mom> "OMG! You mean you were telling the truth about the spacemen?"
Son> "Sure mom. I wouldn't lie to you."
In a few min. the UFO flew away, the power came back on, and her husband showed up. She told her story but he said he never saw the UFO.
Here's where the story becomes even more interesting. This all happened back in 1970 when Bryon and Butch saw the hovering UFO. When it departed it went to the south. This family lived near Hardin, directly south on Route 100. It was the same UFO / flying saucer.
The lady said her son told her the spacemen looked just like we do except for their uniforms. If you saw one of these guys on the street dressed like anyone else you wouldn't know who they are. You couldn't tell them from anyone else.
In 1989 Bryon shot the video of the UFO conference in Eureka Springs, AR. During this event a man by the name of Daniel Fry told of how he went for rides with the spacemen in their UFO.
Daniel said, "It was mundane actually. The aliens looked just like we do except for their uniforms. If you saw one dressed as we do you wouldn't know one of them if you met them on the street."
Daniel went on to say the inside the craft was very basic. It looks nothing like something you would see in a space Sci-Fi movie like Star Trek. Everything has a purpose. Sure they had some impressive viewers but the controls and all were more like something built for the military, very basic.
Here we have two witnesses describing the same things and yet neither of them knew the other. Neither had heard the other's story.
Most alien interviewees talk about seeing or being abducted by the greys. It's easy enough to fabricate some kind of alien story when the witnesses can draw upon something someone else has said. The following however is not quite as well publicized.
In the 1980s Bryon was standing outside a church building on A road in the Ozarks. A young man approached him with a concerned expression and said...
Man> "Do you believe in UFOs and alien beings?"
Bryon> "Sure, why not?"
Man> "Because something happened to me and I have no one I can talk to about it."
Bryon> "What happened?"
Man> "A woman wearing a green flying suit had sex with me the other night then flew out the window up above the trees into a UFO. Then she flew away. I thought this was so fantastic it had to be a dream. Then I realized I was standing looking out my open window at the night sky. I wasn't dreaming! It was real!"
A few years later Bryon met another young man who at that time also lived in MO but at another farm house who told a similar story. These two men didn't know each other.
Young Man> "It happened when my brother and I were young, I was like 10 or so. It was a hot night and we had no air-conditioning in our house. My brother and I slept upstairs and it was always hotter up there. I woke hearing our window fan fall from the window. I got up to see. I put the fan back into the window when I saw a man floating outside wearing a glowing green suit."
He said the being was humanoid but not human, the same thing the the other man described about the alien female. She looked really similar to human but not exactly. These beings couldn't walk down the street and pretend to be humans, except at the UFO convention at Vegas or Roswell perhaps.
Two similar stories is interesting but I'll throw in a third. This story comes from two women in OK.
While working a UFO investigation with New Project Blue Book director Bill Pitts in Miami, OK the two interviewed a gymnasium full of people from the average person to police and fireman.
Two mothers in the same vehicle, mother and daughter, were taking their kids to a birthday party shortly after dark. They saw a light come down out of the sky and land. They said, "Let's go see what that is." And they went to find something blocking the rural road. At first they thought it was a piece of farm equipment but as they came near they saw it was something else.
Woman 1> "It was some kind of craft. It blocked the entire road. It had lights on it. Then when a door opened up in the side, two humanoid beings flew out wearing green flying suits! I threw it into reverse backed up the road turned around and hit the gas!"
Woman 2> "The very next day our kids were playing in the back yard and mom and I were talking about what we had seen the night before. Even the kids saw it. Then we heard a helicopter flying low behind our house. We ran out and there's this black helicopter watching our house! We got the kids inside quick and locked the doors."
Woman 1> "We finally got the courage to call the Sheriff's department and tell them what was going on. They came out and asked us a few questions then told us they had reason to believe that drug runners were using helicopters to deliver drugs to someone out here. They didn't believe us."
Bryon> "Bill Pitts agreed with the Sheriff's department but I was the one who interviewed these two. Certainly someone may have been making a drug drop from a helicopter. The thing that gets me is these women were within yards of what ever that was parked in the road. Certainly they knew the difference between a helicopter, a farmer's combine, and something they couldn't identify. Next thing is their description of the humanoid beings in the green flying suits. Oh yeah, I heard about them from two other men and I know not one of these people knew the others. How do you make up something that's so like a story told by someone else at a different place and time?"
Is it typical for black helicopters to show up during or after UFO sightings?
Bryon > "Yes. I have more stories to tell but one thing is certain - black helicopters, some large and some small, frequently show up during and after UFO sightings. Not only that, jet fighters will appear and begin popping flares in an effort to distract the public and provide another explanation for the UFO sightings."
Interviewer> "Can you give some examples?"
Bryon > "Remember the Phoenix lights UFO case? The bright white circular lights that appeared over the mountain range to the west of Phoenix, Arizona were over an MOA. A military operations area. They were in fact white phosphorous ground illumination flares dropped by an A-10 to get people to look toward the west. They wanted cameras pointed toward the west instead of at the huge black UFO passing over their heads from north to south."
Interviewer> "A distraction?"
Bryon > "Both a diversionary tactic and an explanation for those who didn't see the real UFO. Nearly every time some program does a segment on the Phoenix Lights they show the flares as if they were the UFO. To an experienced UFO researcher, it's a joke. They know the truth and all this does for them is show how many people can see something explainable and swear it's a UFO. It discredits the witnesses, makes them look stupid. It's sad but that's how government disinformatoin works. It's why the skeptics laugh at those who say they saw a UFO. For some reason the news media will prefer to show the flares with the caption UFO."
Interviewer> "Tell us another?"
Bryon > "I've told you some about the brilliant white deep dish UFO we saw and chased near Pearl, IL. This UFO was so consistent it came down the IL river between 11pm-2am 3 and 4 times a week. We had seen it so many times we would wait up for it just to chase it. In time it didn't show up anymore and a few years later numerous brilliant colored UFOs about 10 feet across began appearing in the night sky in the same area."
Bryon > "Multiple witnesses. These things were sighted mostly by farmers or people who lived on farms in both Pike and Calhoun county. Missy, Butch's sister, married my cousin, Randy Campbell. She was at their house when one of these flew down and hovered over a corn field near her yard fence. She called Butch to come see but it flew away before he could drive from Pearl to her house. As she described the UFO they were standing in the yard when three of them flew out of the north down low over their heads up over the hill to the south and one went east, one went west, and the other flew on to the south."
Interviewer> "And the military sends in the jets to investigate the UFOs?"
Bryon > "Sure they did. Popping flares to get people to look the other way. So Butch said 'I spent 30 years in the Air Force and I've seen everything they have and I never saw a flare that could hover then fly away at high speed before.'"
Interviewer> "What did the news say about it?"
Bryon > "They said there were no UFOs, just military jets doing a training mission, popping flares and such. I read the news articles they printed in the paper for that event. I wish I had a copy to show you now. So yes there were jets and flares and yes there were UFOs or craft of unknown origin also visiting the area."
Rosswell, New Mexico 1947!
What happened in Roswell? If you ask the people who were there you will get some conflicting stories. Like Mr. Flipper's says, if a tree falls in the forest you will have at least 3 stories, one from the tree, one from you and one from me.
I went to NM looking for answers. We spent one week in the Rudoso area branching out from there each day and included a trip to White Sands and the rocket museum in Alamagorda. I spent a week in Roswell during their "Crash Fest" and while there had the opportunity to interview a few people including Glen Dennis and Frank Kaufman.
The stories told by each of these men are dramatically different. Mr. Dennis says the beings were little gray things and one of them was alive. But he admits his friend the nurse saw them and he didn't. He saw wreckage in the back of a truck that had come from a crash site of some kind.
The story told by Frank Kaufman tells where the crash site was that he helped clean up. He says "that's not where the tour bus takes people either." He said the beings were not grays they were little people with ash colored skin. He said "there were five dead little people." He was at the crash site and transported wreckage of a "Craft of Unknown Origin" and the dead bodies of the aliens.
Since the stories were so dramatically different it came down to the idea one of them had to be wrong, or lying. The truth of the mater is more complex. Both men were sincere and I had no inclinations either was being deceptive. I had to figure it out and this is what I came up with.
Everyone wondered what caused the little UFO to crash, some said it must have been hit by lighting, but that's not what happened. Yes there was terrible storm but there were two UFOs not one. There were two crash sights not one. The two craft collided with each other during the storm and they both crashed. One on Mac Brasel's sheep farm. This was the one with the crescent shaped ship with the blue glowing cells on the bottom. The other crashed in the Lincoln forest. This one contained the grays and one of them was still alive.
The government deals in secrets and the method they use to do this is what I call "compartmentalizing." There were not one recovery team but two and neither knew of the other's existence at that moment in time.
Both ships and alien occupants were brought back to Roswell Army Air Base at completely different times. Neither saw the other.
Both men are telling the truth about what they witnessed.
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